LIVE SHOW! Virtual Aerobatic Team "Berkuts" 5&6 July

[BR=11=Frazer]

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The Show
In preparation of the Virtual Festival of Aerobatic Teams and as an official announcement of our new Virtual Aerobatic Team, we would like to present the VAT “Berkuts” with a live display.
The show will take place on Saturday and Sunday, the 5th and 6th of July.
Everyone is welcome to our server and watch! (LockOn FC 1.12 Required (http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=30909&highlight=Lockon+gold))

We plan to do two displays each day with a capacity of 30 spectators for every show.
This is only a limited amount with the obvious reason to reduce the chances of server instabilities.
If you miss a seat there is no need to worry, we will do a total of 4 displays during the weekend and we will provide tracks afterwards.

During the show, there will be a camera helicopter airborne.
You could use this helicopter to make interesting views. Go to this helicopter with the F2 key and you will be able to easily switch between aircraft with F5. You can zoom in and out using the CTR+/ and CTR+* keys and change position with the up-down-left-right arrows on the numpad.
To make the ultimate "Berkuts" experience, also download our Berkuts Skin! (http://www.berkuts.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=83)

Airshow Importance:
- It is strictly forbidden to leave and/or join the mission during the show! This will couse lag and could ruin our airshow.
- It is not allowed to use chat as long as the wheels are off the ground.
- Its strictly forbidden to take screenshots or run fraps during the show. If you want to take screenshots or run fraps, track the flight with pressing CTR+R instead of pressing FLY so that you can do this after the show. Our server track will also be provided after the show.
- Leave and join our Ventrilo only when neccecarily.


VAT “Berkuts” Server and Ventrilo2.3.0
For spectators it is required to join our Ventrilo first. The server password will be provided through our Ventrilo.
To increase capabilities, the VAT “Berkuts” DO NOT USE Ventrilo 3.0.1 but Ventrilo 2.3.0!
If you have the newest Ventrilo3.0.1, there is no need to uninstall because you can easily run both copies next to each other.

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Ventrilo 3.0.1 with 2.3.0 inserted
- Install Ventrilo 3.0.1 (download (http://www.ventrilo.com/dlprod.php?id=1))
- Place Ventrilo2.3.0.exe in the Ventrilo3.0.1 folder (Ventrilo2.3.0.rar (http://www.berkuts.ru/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=196&d=1206313535))
Now you can launch both versions of Ventrilo. Create shortcuts on your desktop or start menu for easy switching.

If the first variant is not working for you, try this:

Ventrilo 3.0.1 & 2.3.0 installed both
- Install Ventrilo 3.0.1 (download (http://www.ventrilo.com/dlprod.php?id=1))
- Rename Ventrilo 3.0.1 folder to whatever.
- Uninstall Ventrilo 3.0.1.
- Install 2.3.0 (download (http://files.filefront.com/ventrilo+230+Windows+i36exe/;9058588;/fileinfo.html))
Now you can launch both versions of Ventrilo. Create shortcuts on your desktop or start menu for easy switching.

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VAT “Berkuts” Ventrilo:
Ventrilo Address: ventrilo.berkuts.ru Port: 3784
Ventrilo Password: No password

VAT “Berkuts” Server:
Server Location: Moscow
Server Address: server.berkuts.ru Port: 10308
Server Password: No Password

Satruday 5th of July:
Display one ~19:00 GMT
Display two ~21:00 GMT

Sunday 6th of July:
Display one ~17:00 GMT
Display two ~19:00 GMT

Mind the summer time!
Use this (TimeZoneConverter (http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc)) to calculate your time.

We hope you will enjoy the show!

For more information check out the (VAT “Berkuts” forum (http://www.berkuts.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=61))

[BR=11=Frazer]

NOTE: We will NOT host through Hyperlobby. Connect via LockOn ingame network.

[Lawndart]

Looking forward to it! :Smile-002:

[Lawndart]

After 1st & 2nd show:

Great shows guys!!! Too bad Spider lagged in the first show...

Smooth, good looking formations and the "heart in the sky" (with the Solos flying head-on initially) was well executed! One of my favorites. :Smile-005:

Also like the takeoffs a lot with the 360 + Solo loop, but it would have been even cooler if the Solos finished the loop closer behind the Diamond.

Also, noticed some of the groundtracks were L/R of show center between the two shows and the opposing passes usually took place right of show center.

Props for doing two 6-ship rolls, one to the right and one to the left. That is impressive!!!

I also like the two 3-ship formations coming head-on at the end of the show, but expected a nice breakaway... like the Red Arrows or Snowbirds "lag back cross", so the fly-by with only flares wasn't as cool. I had my expectations too high on that one!

Great maneuvers, a little off center sometimes, smooth but a little slow is my feeling.

The only real negative is some of the turnarounds are slow and take long, but remember I'm critical of this since the way we fly (as VTB) we count every second it takes between passes and this year we're faster than we've ever been before. You guys still showed good poise, beautiful formations and a great show! Love the Berkuts skins too... :Smile-004:

Just speed up the turnarounds, rejoins and fix some of the off center passes - OK! :Smile-024:(*wink wink*) Having said that, YOU GUYS ROCKED!!! THANKS FOR SOME BEAUTIFUL FLYING!!! :Smile-002: :Smile-002: :Smile-015:

[BR=11=Frazer]

Thank you for watching the show and the sharp comments LawnDart!
It is good to hear some negative points and not only positive.

Though I still want to note what this show purpose is:

In preparation of the Virtual Festival of Aerobatic Teams and as an official announcement of our new Virtual Aerobatic Team, we would like to present the VAT “Berkuts” with a live display.We are only half the way of what you can expect at VFAT2008 :Smile-032:

[Skru_Luse]

Awesome show guys ! :Smile-005:

Truly great flying by all pilots !

My face at the end :Smile-006::Smile-006:

Will be there tomorrow with a Track recording this time :Smile-011:

Once again great show.

-Luse

[BR=11=Frazer]

Awesome show guys ! :Smile-005:

Truly great flying by all pilots !

My face at the end :Smile-006::Smile-006:

Will be there tomorrow with a Track recording this time :Smile-011:

Once again great show.

-Luse


Thanks for your reply and we are happy you liked the show!
About the tracks, no worries here since we got everything recorded six fold :Smile-002:
After the weekend we will post the best track in this thread :Smile-032:

[Skru_Luse]

It was great Frazer !

Roger that :Smile-002:

[BR=11=Frazer]

Today's airshow is starting NOW(see post time)

Server Address: server.berkuts.ru Port: 10308
Server Password: NO PASSWORD

Connect through ingame "NETWORK PLAY" or via "HYPERLOBBY".

Enjoy! http://forums.eagle.ru/images/smilies/smilewink.gif

[Skru_Luse]

Very nice show again today guys,

This show had some interesting problems, but you guys performed with them and kicked A** Through the whole thing :Smile-005:

Frazer,Spider,Yaroslav, You guys all did a great job of filling other positions, very well done.:Smile-004:

Awesome flying by all,

My favorite part Frazer over coms, Frazer: Oh, I forgot I had 2 Smokes... Stupid Solo :Smile-003:

Your next show is streaming in my living room with my projector :Smile-002:

[BR=11=Frazer]

Very nice show again today guys,

This show had some interesting problems, but you guys performed with them and kicked A** Through the whole thing :Smile-005:

Frazer,Spider,Yaroslav, You guys all did a great job of filling other positions, very well done.:Smile-004:

Awesome flying by all,

My favorite part Frazer over coms, Frazer: Oh, I forgot I had 2 Smokes... Stupid Solo :Smile-003:

Your next show is streaming in my living room with my projector :Smile-002:


Thanks for the kind words there :)

Second and last airshow of the weekend is starting now!

[Lawndart]

After 3rd show:

Great show again, but since I know you guys area looking for precision here are some things I saw:

Frazer, your 4 point/8 point needs slower hesitations. It's very laggy for spectators. I couldn't tell if you did an 8 point roll or 4 point roll without looking at the track afterwards. The way we fixed this is by rolling and making the stops smoother/slower. It's boring to fly, but looks much better for the spectators. An evil, but necessary compromise you could call it.:Smile-009:

Frazer was the only pilot without NAV lights turned on during the show.

Frazer had two smoke gens, one on each wingtip, everyone else had a center smoke generator. This made smoke look assymetrical in the 6-ship formations when looking at the formation from below or above. This is obviously because the solo routine before the show, but the formation doesn't look symmetrical in Delta in particular. Maybe if Yaroslav also had two wingtip smoke gens would be a solution (until someone else lags out and you guys switch positions around).

Spider looked like he either forgot smoke on the takeoff or maybe turned it on too early (with wheels still on the ground) again.

Timoha's setups from behind and from in front are a little off center and inconsistent. Sometimes too far right, sometimes too far left of the mark. Also, the Stinger roll (would have been a Delta roll normally, but AndrewZ was lagged out) was apexed well to the left of show center.

Very good job adapting and flying a Stinger when you lost a pilot the first time. Especially the Box formation, where Yaroslav flew left wing and knife edge. I'm assuming that isn't his normal position in that maneuver, and that shows great versatility! Thumbs up to Yaroslav! :Smile-004:

The rejoin after the Box formation looked like Yaroslav could have spread out more to allow more room for AndrewZ to join in a "nicer" way. He almost hit the leader and slot, probably feeling like he was sandwiched in between Yaroslav and the formation. This would have looked much better if the outer wingman spread out more and then joined the inner wingman's wing as he still is in the process of joining the formation smoothly.

Also, the rejoins are really far away from the airport, as much as 7-8nm sometimes! The one after the Big formation break could have looked better and been accomplished a lot faster. I find it easier to perform rejoins close to the airport and here's why: If the leader stays close to the airport, he needs to keep turning in some way. This creates aspect "problems" for the wingmen, but good problems none the less. Instead of chasing down the leader with only speed, they can now rely on measured techniques and pursuit techniques (lead, lag etc.). It also makes the rejoin much more symmetrical looking, because each pilot will join up in a consistent pattern instead of coming from behind as a swarm of bees. Being able to fly a consistent rejoin profile utilizing lead pursuit instead of chasing the leader to join will make rejoins faster and easier to plan ahead for (in briefings and execution).

Formation rolls: I noticed some guys use rudder in the rolls. This is a great way to prevent any excess cupping, but it needs to be a measured amount of rudder and smoothly held, then released at the appropriate time. There were some times you could tell rudder was being put in-out-in-out etc. by wingmen in the rolls. This may not be obvious to the pilot himself, but for a spectator watching from half way around the world it looks jerky and really laggy (with the appearance of "fish tailing").

The opposing solo maneuvers are still off center. This time both were left of show center.

Also, great work by Spider who flew left wing when AndrewZ lagged out the second time for the Heart in the Sky formation break. Nice job adapting to the situation and good call by the leader Timoha for the proper formation changes! A leader with good situational awareness is a must and Timoha definitely does a great job.

Show is coming along nicely and despite lag problems you guys dealt with it in a good way. Again, timing could be faster in turnarounds etc., better and quicker rejoins with plotted out rejoin trajectories, smooth (and mostly constant) rudder use in rolls as well as anticipating lag for spectators in solo maneuvers such as the 8 point roll would be my biggest recommendations to look at judging from this show.

Frazer, I know you flew a great solo routine, but a lot of it was so laggy because the quick hesitation stops it was almost hard to watch.:Smile-012: Hopefully, it can be smoothed out a little bit (i.e. slower stops/hesitations) and it will look almost as good to us as it does in your cockpit. We routinely send our tracks to others so you can watch yourself fly on someone else's track and it reveals almost all the areas where you need to be smoother because of lag... that's just a tip to pinpoint which maneuvers need "lag smoothing".

Again, this is not meant to harm anyone... You guys already have a great show, superb pilots so this is just me pointing out some things from a spectator's point of view that could be improved and make the show even better. I could have just said "great job" and that would have been sufficient and accurate too, but hopefully this helps and remember, it was still an amazing display! :Smile-015:

[Lawndart]

Just watched the last show (4th). Many things looked good!

I didn't realize in my last post that Yaroslav and Frazer (outer wingmen) are the ones supposed to fly knife edge in the Box formation, so good job to Skair in the previous show for adapting when it was a Stinger Box!!! :Smile-002:

The rejoin after the Big Formation Break, the one before the "dirty Diamond Roll" looks very dis-organised.

The solos FINALLY had a show center pass on the opposing cobra maneuver! Woohoo!!! :Smile-005:

Btw, there was less noticable rudder in the rolls during this show on my end.

And I like the 2x3-ship formation loops at the end. This time I didn't have my expectations up and it was great. (Spider forgot smoke off again... DOH!). Hehe...

Again, all I can really say is another beautiful show!!! Shows that flying back-to-back shows and days is paying off. Look forward to seeing you fly at VFAT! :Smile-014:

Great job Berkuts, you make us all proud! :Smile-005:

[Skru_Luse]

Awesome 4th show guys,

Spot on, I can not wait to see the whole thing at Vfat !

Looking awesome guys, keep it up :Smile-005::Smile-005:

[BR=11=Frazer]

After 3rd show:

Great show again, but since I know you guys area looking for precision here are some things I saw...........
............I could have just said "great job" and that would have been sufficient and accurate too, but hopefully this helps and remember, it was still an amazing display! :Smile-015:


Thanks for the tips and comments there Lawndart!
I will get your post translated to russian so that everyone understands. :Smile-032:

I must say though that most of your critical points are known within the group. We still got work to do, perfecting our show.
Regardless, we found this airshow good enough to show that we are here :Smile-032:

Thanks for watching our shows (all 4!) and your tips to improve them! :Smile-005:

[BR=11=Frazer]

Thank you all for watching, it was a great experience! :Smile-005:

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[BR=11=Frazer]

For the ones who didn't make it to the live show, tracks together with ventrilo records are now downloadable!
The tracks are not edited so that everyone can make their own views.

Before downloading the track we would be pleased if you register (http://www.berkuts.ru/forum/register.php) at our forum first.
After downloading, extract the tracks in "Lock On > Missions > Tracks" folder.
Tracks can be opened in the lockon mission editor by selecting the track and pressing "CTR+E".
To run the track synchronized with the MP3 Voice file, simply press "S" to unpauze the mission shortly after you heared "Start Airshow [aeroshou]".

VAT_Berkuts_02_LIVE_2008-07-05 (http://www.berkuts.ru/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=415&d=1215555659)
VAT_Berkuts_03_LIVE_2008-07-06 (http://www.berkuts.ru/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=416&d=1215555737)
VAT_Berkuts_04_LIVE_2008-07-06 (http://www.berkuts.ru/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=417&d=1215555766)

[BR=11=Frazer]

Screenshots